This has been thrown around in chat recently so we decided to put it in a forum. Most of the users are supportive of a rule that requires proper grammar to be used. It's something that can be easily be fixed. And we know that everyone can type correctly but just chose not to. We just hope that this can become a chat rule. Iluvgale"You and I could make it..." 18:01, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
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I agree, but make sure there are exceptions. People without english as their first language and dyslexic people.
Doo Doo Doo Doo.....18:02, December 28, 2012 (UTC) I think i can agree with most of this but i do think in the long run this will cause problems Be Cool... A Cool Cato! 18:09, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I think I can agree with this.... I mean there are moments where I choose to use proper grammar and there are others where I don't, but I would be willing to use proper grammar all the time if this becomes a chat rule. Cool Story Bro 18:03, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I agree entireley. If someone makes a typo then corrects it that should be fine. But even those with dyslexia and people with another language as their first rather than English should try their best.. Good night... Sleep tight... Don't let the dead bite 18:09, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
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I am not sure if I agree or not. To me, grammar really isn't that important as a long as I understand what has been said. Having to read all of my comments to check for grammar mistakes before I post would be really tideous. However I can agree that peopel writing "I g2g so C ya'll l8ter, ill be bck' at 7!" would be pretty annoying. Maybe you could make it a rule that you can't write too bad grammar if your first language is english. You wouldn't have to speak perfect, but wouldn't be allowed to make all bad grammar just cause the person is lazy.
However I do think there should be some exceptions. A lot of people (myself included) has English as their second language and it's honestly kind of annoying to be corrected all the time. With this rule, it would be almost impossible for someone with English as their second language to be online on chat. So maybe, make some exceptions, or make the rule a little less tight. I honestly find it a bit offensive that someone would not believe that we second-languaged users doesn't do our best to write properly. If I was slobby with my language on chat, no one would understand what I said.
Also which kinda of punishment would this trigger? A warning? A kick? It would a be a little harsh banning someone for incorrect grammar...
The time you enjoyed wasting, wasn't wasted. (talk) 18:15, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Anna, there are a lot of people on the wiki that don't have english as first language, so they try their best to write the word in english. And the last thing it's true I don't know what to write here! (talk) 18:17, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I think that it shouldn't be very strict. Just rather that people should try to the best of their abiity to type as well as possible. Iluvgale"You and I could make it..." 18:23, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Also i think this should be considered. I don't think the new users we get here will find this rule very appealing. I mean, imagine comming from one wiki where you are experinced, then you come on chat, write one sentences, and suddenly a billion people correct you, telling you that you can get kicked if your grammar isn't proper. I think that it would scare a lot of new users away from this wiki, especially the second languaged ones.
Also, if we aren't gonna make exceptions, I think it will be really tough for anyone who don't have the proper first-language or have some kind of other thing preventing their grammar from being correct, for example dyslexic, or certain types of autism.
I honestly think that a lot of users who just can't write that good grammar would be very saddened by this rule, as it kinda feels like people who has their first language as English are rejecting us from chat. I am sure that's not what people mean to do, but it honestly is kinda offensive. I do my best with grammar, and I am sure that most people do. We aren't trying to be annoying with our "incorrect grammar", but we can't help it. This rule seems pointless to me unless the grammar is like: "I g2g so C ya'll l8ter, ill be bck' at 7!" In that case, it's obvious that the person aren't trying, but in any other cases, I really wish that people would just try and tolerate it.
The time you enjoyed wasting, wasn't wasted. (talk) 18:50, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
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I disagree. We can use whatever grammar we like. Its not the admins say of how we talk.
Andy1854
I would be against this since I isn't really the best Grammar peson. Really I don't wanna be rude but I think this is a riduclous rule to be put in chat. Some people may be from different countries and isn't really the best with Grammar. Also if it was a rule then would the mod does do? Kick them? ban them? just for Grammar as a rule?? This is why I'm really against this rule and this forum. As chat doesn't need a "Grammar" since people already know what your saying. I get corrected a lot by Callam or Dani they usually say stuff like "You're". I mean if they know I'm saying "You're" then why do we need to make a forum for this? It makes no sense for me. Maybe things such as like "Hai","Bai" and "Nu" could be banned from chat. But like a Grammar rule like "Periods" "Conjuctions" and other stuff. I think aren't needed as a rule in chat. Since you all ready know what they are saying, Just they don't use Grammar. You don't have to use Grammar when you don't want to. User's should be able to have the choice to use Grammar or not. It's just like talking except you may not want to put things like "Periods" or "Commas" and stuff. I mean I'm still learning English Grammar. So this rule isn't the best for me or people from Europe.
Ranger1434 (talk) 18:32, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I have to disagree. I think this is overkill. I mean if someone miss spells something to would be considered breaking a rule. And people use southern terms and to other people it might not be proper grammar
And in that moment I swear we were infinite 18:09, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Too harsh and too difficult to enforce. Where would we draw the line? It's impossible for us to know what a person's "best" is, and it's unfair to say users whose grasp of grammar/spelling isn't as strong as others' shouldn't be here. We can politely explain proper language skills to people who might need assistance, or nicely ask people to stop who are deliberately typing messily, but we aren't going to block users based on grammar. -TagAlongPam (talk) 05:57, December 29, 2012 (UTC)